[2009.07.26-18.10,40] Davion@ADP <ichat> Samsons problem is that it looks like you intentionally set your background to white just to aid in bitching about his MUD. Pretty sure he's not the only one who got that impression
[2009.07.26-18.12,04] Raudhrskal <ichat> Actually, white xterm's were the original default. Some people are used to it.
[2009.07.26-18.12,39] Raudhrskal <ichat> What if it would be my complaint? I have green background.
[2009.07.26-18.13,10] Cratylus <ichat> but thats not true
[2009.07.26-18.13,22] Cratylus <ichat> in fact i was just getting yelled at about it the other day
[2009.07.26-18.13,26] Davion@ADP <ichat> Honestly, looking at the colour of his game, any background colour would make me sick
[2009.07.26-18.13,42] Cratylus <ichat> people on i3 were all like whats wrong with yoiu
[2009.07.26-18.13,47] Raudhrskal <ichat> 'set ansi off'?
[2009.07.26-18.13,59] Cratylus <ichat> i actually use what bg in general
[2009.07.26-18.14,07] Raudhrskal <ichat> or is it impossible in this lib?
[2009.07.26-18.14,50] HyperEye@SoulRuins <ichat> I use a black shell to code at home. When I am at work I prefer a white shell or yellow tinted. Just a matter of lighting difference and what my eyes can handle.
[2009.07.26-18.16,01] Davion@ADP <ichat> I use white on black, or white on transparent dark.
[2009.07.26-18.16,28] Cratylus <ichat> i do sometimes use non-white bg, if im on a bunch of muds and trying to keep track of which is which
[2009.07.26-18.16,52] Davion@ADP <ichat> I use my prompt for that
[2009.07.26-18.17,51] Cratylus <ichat> i recently added character mode stuff to my mud so i can use a regular term as a client, so that's my thing now
[2009.07.26-18.18,01] Cratylus <ichat> i think it's sad that was samson's beef
[2009.07.26-18.18,27] Cratylus <ichat> got a 100 out of it tho :)
[2009.07.26-18.19,59] Davion@ADP <ichat> It's not sad if it was what you actually did ;)
[2009.07.26-18.20,29] Cratylus <ichat> but it wasnt
[2009.07.26-18.20,34] Cratylus <ichat> hang on lemme dig up a log
[2009.07.26-18.20,35] Davion@ADP <ichat> sez u
[2009.07.26-18.20,40] Cratylus <ichat> hang on
[2009.07.26-18.20,46] <ichat> Davion@ADP grins evilly.
[2009.07.26-18.21,15] HyperEye@SoulRuins <ichat> "Hang on... let me write up a log"
[2009.07.26-18.21,19] <ichat> HyperEye@SoulRuins grins evilly.
[2009.07.26-18.21,46] <ichat> Davion@ADP grins evilly.
[2009.07.26-18.22,58] Cratylus <ichat> http://dead-souls.net/ds-2009.07.23-14.21,01
[2009.07.26-18.23,16] Cratylus <ichat> [2009.07.23-14.19,30] Cratylus <ds> having said all that, i happen to like black on white
[2009.07.26-18.24,31] Koron@StormHunters <ichat> I'm pretty sure I don't understand why this is a big enough deal to continue talking about
[2009.07.26-18.25,17] Cratylus <ichat> cuz samson and davion think i was intentionally trying to make a shitty mud look worse than it was
[2009.07.26-18.25,32] Cratylus <ichat> which is so silly i just had to point out how silly it is
[2009.07.26-18.26,17] Davion@ADP <ichat> I found it amusing
[2009.07.26-18.31,28] Cratylus <ichat> so yeah, kinda sad that someone liking black on white is so hard to believe
[2009.07.26-18.31,52] Davion@ADP <ichat> It is a little
[2009.07.26-18.31,57] Kline@AF_Demo <ichat> i used to roll that way, crat
[2009.07.26-18.32,11] Kline@AF_Demo <ichat> then the darker my cave of a home became i realized how much it hurt my eyes and switched
[2009.07.26-18.34,08] Cratylus <ichat> well i used to use gmoo, which defaulted to white on black
[2009.07.26-18.34,36] Cratylus <ichat> but since i set up this character mode stuff, it's been black on white for me
[2009.07.26-18.35,04] Davion@ADP <ichat> What is this character mode stuff yous peak of?
[2009.07.26-18.35,19] Cratylus <ichat> well, suppose yer using linux
[2009.07.26-18.35,27] Cratylus <ichat> you're at the terminal command line
[2009.07.26-18.35,27] Davion@ADP <ichat> Always!
[2009.07.26-18.35,34] Cratylus <ichat> you telnet to yourmud
[2009.07.26-18.35,38] Cratylus <ichat> log in, etc
[2009.07.26-18.35,44] Cratylus <ichat> if you hit the uparrow, what happens?
[2009.07.26-18.35,57] Davion@ADP <ichat> ^[[A
[2009.07.26-18.36,01] Cratylus <ichat> like
[2009.07.26-18.36,03] Cratylus <ichat> right
[2009.07.26-18.36,13] Cratylus <ichat> i get the last command i entered into the mud
[2009.07.26-18.36,19] Davion@ADP <ichat> Ah
[2009.07.26-18.36,24] Davion@ADP <ichat> You gave it a ssh type interface
[2009.07.26-18.36,25] Cratylus <ichat> i hit it again, i get the one before
[2009.07.26-18.36,44] Cratylus <ichat> i enabled character mode, allowing for escape sequences that let the session behave more like a shell i like
[2009.07.26-18.36,46] Davion@ADP <ichat> Wait, so you could have a nano-like text editor, eh?
[2009.07.26-18.36,51] Cratylus <ichat> i do actually
[2009.07.26-18.36,54] Cratylus <ichat> it's called ced
[2009.07.26-18.36,57] Davion@ADP <ichat> That's really cool
[2009.07.26-18.37,03] Cratylus <ichat> yes it is
[2009.07.26-18.37,11] Davion@ADP <ichat> For those of us who use konsole/telnet exclusively! Sweetness
[2009.07.26-18.37,30] Cratylus <ichat> so you can see now why im all about the regular terminal window
[2009.07.26-18.37,33] Cratylus <ichat> and plus
[2009.07.26-18.37,42] Cratylus <ichat> the color scheme matches what is happening when i'm working
[2009.07.26-18.37,51] Davion@ADP <ichat> Ah
[2009.07.26-18.37,55] Cratylus <ichat> a bunch of dark windows on my desktop look from far away like im goofin off
[2009.07.26-18.38,07] Davion@ADP <ichat> Ah
[2009.07.26-18.38,19] Cratylus <ichat> ye of little faith
[2009.07.26-18.38,25] Cratylus <ichat> unca crat doesnt lie
[2009.07.26-18.40,55] Davion@ADP <ichat> Considering you're not my unca, I dunno how to take that :P
[2009.07.26-18.41,15] Kline@AF_Demo <ichat> So anybody here who's done the embedded Lua thing? Specifically looking for help related to the wait.lua implementation from Gammon's site
[2009.07.26-18.52,19] Davion@ADP <ichat> Ask on MudBytes. There's a couple people who use Lua. At the very least, DH will give you helpful links
[2009.07.26-18.52,59] Davion@ADP <ichat> Always gotta have the last word, eh Crat? :P
[2009.07.26-18.53,15] Cratylus <ichat> cmon thats a lesson learned
[2009.07.26-18.53,25] Cratylus <ichat> you guys cuda just come out and said what was on yermind
[2009.07.26-18.53,33] Davion@ADP <ichat> I did!
[2009.07.26-18.53,40] Cratylus <ichat> well AFTER
[2009.07.26-18.56,06] Cratylus <ichat> i mean srsly look at it from my point of view
[2009.07.26-18.56,16] Cratylus <ichat> can you not see why im lik e"wtf is with HIM?"
[2009.07.26-18.57,33] Davion@ADP <ichat> Is 'no comment' an acceptible answer?
[2009.07.26-18.57,40] Cratylus <ichat> wait
[2009.07.26-18.57,53] Cratylus <ichat> you still think i intentionally switched to white to make them look bad?
[2009.07.26-18.57,59] Davion@ADP <ichat> No
[2009.07.26-18.58,04] Cratylus <ichat> ok whew
[2009.07.26-18.58,13] Davion@ADP <ichat> I'm a firm beliver that you dance to the beat of your own drum
[2009.07.26-18.58,21] Davion@ADP <ichat> believer*
[2009.07.26-18.58,41] Cratylus <ichat> all right well lookit, i srsly dont see anything weird about the color pref, and had no reason to imagine it was so hard to believe
[2009.07.26-18.58,59] Cratylus <ichat> from where i sat, samson was just being an aggressive troll for no reason
[2009.07.26-18.59,07] <ichat> Davion@ADP has honestly never known anyone (until now!) who's used black on white
[2009.07.26-18.59,14] Cratylus <ichat> if he'd explained that he thought i was being intentionally deceptive
[2009.07.26-18.59,29] Cratylus <ichat> then id have understood the belligerence
[2009.07.26-18.59,35] Davion@ADP <ichat> Your IMC comment he quoted makes it look like you did it consiously :)
[2009.07.26-18.59,38] Cratylus <ichat> and it would all have been quickly resolved
[2009.07.26-18.59,55] Cratylus <ichat> i cant help that, i was quoting a movie i thought was funny
[2009.07.26-19.00,00] Davion@ADP <ichat> He did, didn't he? I haven't talked to him about it. I just gathered from what he posted
[2009.07.26-19.00,04] Cratylus <ichat> "say anything" the scene with the kids in the parking lot
[2009.07.26-19.00,39] Cratylus <ichat> he didnt say he thought i was trying to make them look bad on purpose
[2009.07.26-19.00,51] Cratylus <ichat> if he had, i would have immediately addressed it
[2009.07.26-19.01,04] Cratylus <ichat> and we wouldnt even be talking about it anymore
[2009.07.26-19.01,15] Davion@ADP <ichat> "I just can't see why anyone would deliberately choose to use a white background and then use that as an excuse to bash someone's MUD because they used colors that don't go well with white."
[2009.07.26-19.01,35] Cratylus <ichat> that does not describe causation
[2009.07.26-19.01,45] Cratylus <ichat> that is not "you did X in order to Y
[2009.07.26-19.01,51] Cratylus <ichat> i didnt get that from that statement at all
[2009.07.26-19.02,02] Cratylus <ichat> i got "X then Y"
[2009.07.26-19.02,12] Cratylus <ichat> not "X so that Y"
[2009.07.26-19.03,05] Davion@ADP <ichat> lol. Normally Crat, I follow you, but you've lost me
[2009.07.26-19.03,16] Cratylus <ichat> ok
[2009.07.26-19.03,29] Cratylus <ichat> replace " and then use " with " in order to use "
[2009.07.26-19.03,41] Cratylus <ichat> they are two separate meanings
[2009.07.26-19.03,54] Cratylus <ichat> one says "you did thing X so that you could do thing Y"
[2009.07.26-19.04,03] Cratylus <ichat> the other says "you did thing X and then did thing Y"
[2009.07.26-19.04,18] Cratylus <ichat> for example
[2009.07.26-19.04,45] Cratylus <ichat> "i cant believe you half emptied your tires and are surprised you had an accident"
[2009.07.26-19.04,57] Cratylus <ichat> "i cant believe you half emptied your tires in order to have an accident"
[2009.07.26-19.05,08] Cratylus <ichat> there's a difference
[2009.07.26-19.05,29] Cratylus <ichat> his statement does not carry the implication that my white background was on purpose in order to be harsh
[2009.07.26-19.05,44] Cratylus <ichat> if it was intended to, then he is guilty of being unclear
[2009.07.26-19.06,16] Davion@ADP <ichat> He's supposed to be responsible for you misinterpretation?
[2009.07.26-19.06,26] Cratylus <ichat> nonsense. he was unclear
[2009.07.26-19.06,34] Davion@ADP <ichat> It was clear to me :S
[2009.07.26-19.06,57] Cratylus <ichat> well he wasnt explicit in accusing me
[2009.07.26-19.07,08] Cratylus <ichat> you're reading into it